“I write poems like people who hoard to go to yard sales”: A conversation with Sylvia Jones

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Regarding Sylvia Jones and her auspicious debut collection Television Fathers, I along with Meekling Press nominate her for president of the poetic realm. Not only because we deserve a woman president!, and it’s not because these poems strive to be political, but instead because Jones writes of the pitfalls of late capitalism, and lays bare the realities of Blackness in America, on television, in film, like no one’s quite said it before. She does this while delighting in the beauty, ennui, & ecstasy of loving and writing among a long lineage of artists and poets. She pairs desperation with legerdemain and linguistic play. It’s a tall order, this office, but Sylvia has more than enough the talent for the task. Perhaps Ashleigh Bryant Phillips says it best by calling Television Fathers “a transmission for our end times, a prophecy priced out of the zeitgeist” and one that “only Sylvia Jones can/will say.”

I sent Sylvia some questions with guidance that she was welcome to keep her responses brief. Her responses are pithy and smart, as expected, and we’re lucky that her list of influences is long, and lays bare only a fraction of the influences for the poems collected in Television Fathers.

If you’re in Baltimore, we implore you to attend the ‘official’ launch party at Greedy Reads Remington — tomorrow, November 14 at 7PM .


This exhaustive list is the exact opposite of the brevity you requested, but as you’ve probably gleaned from the pathos of the manuscript, I can get a little carried away with my affinity for pop culture. 

Nevertheless, if there was only one item to highlight on this list, it would be Glenn Ligon’s video installation exhibit “We Need To Wake Up Cause That’s What Time It Is”, which features a silent seven-channel video installation based on the infamous 1982 film, Richard Pryor: Live on the Sunset Strip. Ligon removes Pryor’s voice, and thereby, the incisive comedy for which he is best known. 

Much of Ligon’s practice explores the limits of language, particularly as it relates to history and identity and that’s the exact energy I believe Television Fathers leads with.

Who are your television fathers?  What are the filmic / TV influences in this book?

  • Cleo, from Set It Off (played by Queen Latifah)
  • Omar Little from The Wire (played by Michael K Williams)
  • Frank from Homicide: Life on the streets (played by Andre Braugher)
  • Don Draper from Mad Men (played by John Hamm)
  • John Prentice from Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner (played by Sidney Poitier)
  • Imitation of Life (1921)
  • Trading Places (1985)
  • Last King of Scotland (2006)
  • Good Times (1972-1979)
  • Jean Genet
  • Lorraine Hansberry
  • Marlon Riggs
  • Bina48, an African-American robot

There are a number of ekphrastic poems in the collection — what image(s) / artist(s) have most influenced your work? 

Noah Davispainting Man with Alien and Shotgun inspired the opening poem of the collection. It’s one of those subverted portraiture paintings that startle the viewer, like Hans Holbein the Younger‘s Dead Christ startled Dostoevsky. If anything, the poem is an appetizer / gateway drug to the painting. 

Do you have a writing routine? How do you go about composing your poems?

I write poems like people who hoard to go to yard sales. It’s constant and definitely contributes to my time-blindness. I can definitely revise something to the bone. I can also carry a piece for a long time until it finds its place. 

Where do you write?

I usually write standing up. I have a thread in my phone like most word-hawkers but I also buy a lot of notebooks and write in them and throw them into my desk, thus losing them to the ever growing pile of shit I write down and lose forever. Technically, I write everywhere.

Do you find Baltimore to be a muse? 

I want the poems to reflect my environment in a rarefied way. Not all of them are from Baltimore, or about urban spaces. Sometimes, like for instance in “Because I Didn’t Have a Shopping Cart”, they’re about my relationship to customer service spaces. 

There’s a cento that didn’t make it into the final manuscript called “Stringer Bell and Omar Little at the Meyerhoff”. It’s a compilation of epigraphs from episodes of The Wire—I wrote it as an elegy to Micheal K Williams, who was the first black gay person on tv I ever saw. I’m flirting with the past through semantic evacuation, hoping readers will join me in renegotiating their own notions of spatial limits and how they shape our material lives. 

Baltimore is such a red ball, it catches a lot of slack, but living here in the city has been its own canonical glory for me. 

p.s. a follow-up list of influences & ‘fathers’:

  • Giancarlo Esposito, School Daze 
  • Lily Taylor, I Shot Andy Warhol 
  • Jane Fonda, They don’t shoot horse do they?
  • Jennifer Beals, Last Days of Disco
  • Al Pacino, Cruising
  • Cheryl Dunye, Watermelon Woman
  • Dustin Hoffman, Midnight Cowboy

 +++ see also: 

  • Jon Voigt in Midnight Cowboy (1969)
  • Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs (1991)
  • Morgan Freeman in The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990)
  • Jenny Shimizu in Foxfire (1996)
  • Danny DeVito in Tin Men (1987)
  • John Tuturro in Millers Crossing (1990)
  • Joe Pesci in Raging Bull (1980)

Q&A with Critic Matthew Lacker on Gabriel Kendra’s Ten-Second Sculptures

We spoke briefly with art critic Gabriel Kendra about his critical practice as well as his obsession with artist Matthew Lacker’s Ten-Second Sculptures, four of which are featured alongside Kendra’s analyses in the latest Meekling Review. Lacker’s analysis of Kendra’s $33,224,369.98 was featured previously on the blog.

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From Matthew Lacker’s lecture on Gabriel Kendra’s Ten-Second Sculptures at the NeoFuturarium, September 21, 2017.

What first drew you to Gabriel Kendra’s work? And please, tell us more about his Ten Second-Sculptures in relation to his larger body of work.

His larger body of work–at least as far as I have seen–seems to focus on living a life that produces a constant stream of actions, objects, events, performances, structures, and thoughts that each individually could be construed as artworks. When I first encountered it I was fascinated by the way that art can be made so readily and so freely, it’s almost too good to be true. Whether it’s hitting a snooze button or swiping a metro-card I can sense that artful intent is present. I also feel that this artful intent is eager to be researched, developed, produced, market, financed, and distributed, which admittedly is the extent of my involvement with it.

I’m curious about your passion for non-glossy finishes. What else are you passionate about, Matthew Lacker?

When I was younger strangers would often confuse me with “Matte Lacquer” which is the matte version of a liquid made of shellac dissolved in alcohol, or of synthetic substances, that dries to form a hard protective coating for wood, metal, etc…  As a child I was fascinated that another Matt Lacker existed, and I guess my fascination just grew from there.

 Is art history/criticism your usual metier?

No, actually. I began as someone interested in the creation of art but found that it was not my forte.  I lacked the panache, both technically and conceptually to compete in the mêlée that is the modern art world and ultimately felt that I was just a poseur with a Papier-mâché facade. Perhaps it is a faux pas to admit such personal failings, but now it is a fait accompli. I think I have evolved beyond the gaffe of my earlier career, and have become a creative entrepreneur of sorts, a generalist where each task is an hors d’œuvre which combine into an overall joie de vivre. I do not primarily dabble in art history or critique but it is one of my intellectual ac·cou·tre·ments. A knot in my macramé of pursuits I suppose.

Do you know if Kendra is constructing more 10-Second Sculptures in response to these politically fraught times? If so, can you disclose any hints as to what they might  involve?

I am sure he is. As far as I am aware Kendra is in a near perpetual state of performing actions and identifying objects that have profound political and cultural resonance.  He often does not speak candidly as to their meaning–I will have to take time out soon to examine them for significance.

Matthew Lacker is passionate about non-glossy finishes.

Gabriel Kendra is from Richmond, Virginia, and a graduate of VCUArts, currently living in Chicago and occasionally making zines.

Find more of Kendra’s Ten-Second Sculptures & Lacker’s analysis in The Meekling Review:

INTRODUCING…

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We’ve been toiling behind the scenes for a while now — for over a year! — searching far and wide for assortment of fevered dreams and absurdities, heartbreaks and betrayals in order to collect and bring them together here in the freshest of compendiums, The Meekling Review.

And we’re thrilled to announce that at last it’s here!

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Ah, a Review — we imagine you’re thinking–so Meekling is launching a literary journal? 

The answer is yes — but mostly no. This issue, No. SZQ.645π, is the first and the last, the alpha and omega.

Or maybe it’s easiest to say The Meekling Review is a slice from a one-off pie in the sky. Or something like that.

As we explain in our editors’ letter: 

 

“We stumbled upon the idea of a Review with a sense of despondency toward language and toward any sort of seriousness. There was something wrong with how sincerity juxtaposed against the absurdity of our current political climate, and the direness of our planet’s future habitability. What use are words when so devoid of meaning, what are promises without follow-through? We sought to take the formality and superciliousness of criticism and supersilly it, dash it open upon he dregs of our hopes to let it blossom in all its messy joy.”

 

Drawing inspiration from Pataphysics and Dada — we aspired  to turn the seriousness of literary criticism on its head and transform it into something more clever, playful, absurd.

How did we do? What did we realize? Anything? Nothing?

You’ll have to look inside. The Meekling Review filled with meaty ads and a prose poem about the performances of self, psycomagic-inspired tarot readings, symbolic logic magic, a catalog of opening paragraphs, a series of images and their artistic analysis, studies on rat habitats, and a alternative taxonomies of a distinguished literary oeuvre. 

We plan in the coming weeks to bring you excerpts and author interviews….

Stay tuned.

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Objects & Fragments & Magic

In this session Greg Howard leads workshop on Writing-as-Collection, which will include reading from his work and strategies for writing-as-collection, with bonus exercises to complete before and during.

Gregory Howard teaches creative writing, contemporary literature, and film studies at the University of Maine. His first novel Hospice has just been released by FC2. He lives in Bangor, Maine with his wife and cats.

(& be sure to check out Dennis Cooper’s tribute to Hospice here: http://goo.gl/G5zFTe)

 

WRITING-AS-COLLECTION EXERCISES

~to complete before~

Part 1
Spend a part of your day or week collecting objects. For our purposes here, let’s define objects broadly–not just literal objects like things you find on the street, in your room, in a friends room, but also perceptions, memories, ideas, sentences or lines from work. Basically collect anything that fascinates you are captures your fancy.

Now make a list. Be specific in your list. The fabric of your language is important here. Don’t just write “the photograph.” Write instead: “the photograph of the vacation in which the girl, who wearing a green one-piece swimsuit with golden fish on it, looks bored while being entertained by a street magician who looks malevolent and possibly drunk.” In other words, describe your objects well.

Write a short narrative based around your list (250 words). Use the actual language of your list.

 

~to be done during~

Part 2
While I’m talking make a new list. What words or ideas strike you while I’m talking? What suddenly looks new or strange in the place that you are in? Look at your new list of objects. Why are they interesting? Why are they important? Who might find them fascinating? Write this story by connecting it to your previous narrative, the one you thought you had finished (surprise!), thus creating a newer longer narrative. How can you connect these two? How might they be “read together”? Try to keep the surprising and fragmentary nature of the pieced going. Don’t smooth things over. (another 100-200 words)