“I write poems like people who hoard to go to yard sales”: A conversation with Sylvia Jones

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Regarding Sylvia Jones and her auspicious debut collection Television Fathers, I along with Meekling Press nominate her for president of the poetic realm. Not only because we deserve a woman president!, and it’s not because these poems strive to be political, but instead because Jones writes of the pitfalls of late capitalism, and lays bare the realities of Blackness in America, on television, in film, like no one’s quite said it before. She does this while delighting in the beauty, ennui, & ecstasy of loving and writing among a long lineage of artists and poets. She pairs desperation with legerdemain and linguistic play. It’s a tall order, this office, but Sylvia has more than enough the talent for the task. Perhaps Ashleigh Bryant Phillips says it best by calling Television Fathers “a transmission for our end times, a prophecy priced out of the zeitgeist” and one that “only Sylvia Jones can/will say.”

I sent Sylvia some questions with guidance that she was welcome to keep her responses brief. Her responses are pithy and smart, as expected, and we’re lucky that her list of influences is long, and lays bare only a fraction of the influences for the poems collected in Television Fathers.

If you’re in Baltimore, we implore you to attend the ‘official’ launch party at Greedy Reads Remington — tomorrow, November 14 at 7PM .


This exhaustive list is the exact opposite of the brevity you requested, but as you’ve probably gleaned from the pathos of the manuscript, I can get a little carried away with my affinity for pop culture. 

Nevertheless, if there was only one item to highlight on this list, it would be Glenn Ligon’s video installation exhibit “We Need To Wake Up Cause That’s What Time It Is”, which features a silent seven-channel video installation based on the infamous 1982 film, Richard Pryor: Live on the Sunset Strip. Ligon removes Pryor’s voice, and thereby, the incisive comedy for which he is best known. 

Much of Ligon’s practice explores the limits of language, particularly as it relates to history and identity and that’s the exact energy I believe Television Fathers leads with.

Who are your television fathers?  What are the filmic / TV influences in this book?

  • Cleo, from Set It Off (played by Queen Latifah)
  • Omar Little from The Wire (played by Michael K Williams)
  • Frank from Homicide: Life on the streets (played by Andre Braugher)
  • Don Draper from Mad Men (played by John Hamm)
  • John Prentice from Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner (played by Sidney Poitier)
  • Imitation of Life (1921)
  • Trading Places (1985)
  • Last King of Scotland (2006)
  • Good Times (1972-1979)
  • Jean Genet
  • Lorraine Hansberry
  • Marlon Riggs
  • Bina48, an African-American robot

There are a number of ekphrastic poems in the collection — what image(s) / artist(s) have most influenced your work? 

Noah Davispainting Man with Alien and Shotgun inspired the opening poem of the collection. It’s one of those subverted portraiture paintings that startle the viewer, like Hans Holbein the Younger‘s Dead Christ startled Dostoevsky. If anything, the poem is an appetizer / gateway drug to the painting. 

Do you have a writing routine? How do you go about composing your poems?

I write poems like people who hoard to go to yard sales. It’s constant and definitely contributes to my time-blindness. I can definitely revise something to the bone. I can also carry a piece for a long time until it finds its place. 

Where do you write?

I usually write standing up. I have a thread in my phone like most word-hawkers but I also buy a lot of notebooks and write in them and throw them into my desk, thus losing them to the ever growing pile of shit I write down and lose forever. Technically, I write everywhere.

Do you find Baltimore to be a muse? 

I want the poems to reflect my environment in a rarefied way. Not all of them are from Baltimore, or about urban spaces. Sometimes, like for instance in “Because I Didn’t Have a Shopping Cart”, they’re about my relationship to customer service spaces. 

There’s a cento that didn’t make it into the final manuscript called “Stringer Bell and Omar Little at the Meyerhoff”. It’s a compilation of epigraphs from episodes of The Wire—I wrote it as an elegy to Micheal K Williams, who was the first black gay person on tv I ever saw. I’m flirting with the past through semantic evacuation, hoping readers will join me in renegotiating their own notions of spatial limits and how they shape our material lives. 

Baltimore is such a red ball, it catches a lot of slack, but living here in the city has been its own canonical glory for me. 

p.s. a follow-up list of influences & ‘fathers’:

  • Giancarlo Esposito, School Daze 
  • Lily Taylor, I Shot Andy Warhol 
  • Jane Fonda, They don’t shoot horse do they?
  • Jennifer Beals, Last Days of Disco
  • Al Pacino, Cruising
  • Cheryl Dunye, Watermelon Woman
  • Dustin Hoffman, Midnight Cowboy

 +++ see also: 

  • Jon Voigt in Midnight Cowboy (1969)
  • Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs (1991)
  • Morgan Freeman in The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990)
  • Jenny Shimizu in Foxfire (1996)
  • Danny DeVito in Tin Men (1987)
  • John Tuturro in Millers Crossing (1990)
  • Joe Pesci in Raging Bull (1980)

Better days

For a week at the end of November/beginning of December 2021, the Red Rover Reading Series invited us* to take part in their “Reading Experiment in Progress,” described as “a 6-day experiment in community and generosity”. We* put out some fliers with a prompt for this zine and then came in one afternoon for an hour with all our glue sticks and typewriters and scraps of paper to put something together together.

*us! who is us: me, you, all of us. specifically, a variety of chicago artists and writers, generally, everyone who wandered through the cultural center during that week and came in contact with the readings and performances and installations going on

*we! here is some people from meekling press

Here was the prompt we proposed:
Write, doodle, draw, paint, sketch, collage, compose, collaborate, collect, communicate your vision of the world you are working towards. What does it look like? How do we take care of each other? What do we eat? Where do we live?

And here are the responses. It’s weird, it’s messy, it’s 2021, baby. Scraps of paper with wishes written on them and tossed to the wind.

Love,
meekling press

P.S.: The Red Rover Reading Experiment (the theme of which was “how can we create change in the world right now?”*) took place within the Lumpen exhibit called “Successful Failures” at the Chicago Cultural Center.

*and the world is changing right now whether we create it or not! big, powerful, necessary, painful, beautiful, and terrible changes, every which way.

a meekling press zine project – pages due december 15th

come make a zine with us

Hi friends! Long time, no blog. We’re going to be participating in a great event at the Chicago Cultural Center this week, and we’d like you to join us if you can! We’ll be there on Saturday, December 4th from 1-2pm working on a zine project, and if you’re there too, we’ll have some typewriters and gluesticks and collage stuff to cut up and some other things probably, and we can make some pages together. (If you can’t make it this weekend, send us something through email or drop something off in a drop box we’ll leave down there at the exhibition site later this week.)This is part of the Red Rover Reading Series’s event “Reading Experiment in Progress”, a whole week of events at the Cultural Center — which is also part of Lumpen’s “Successful Failures” exhibit — featuring lots of artists from around Chicago. I’ll put more info from them about that below, but first some details about our project and how you can participate:

the prompt/theme of the zine!

Write, doodle, draw, paint, sketch, collage, compose, collaborate, collect, communicate your vision of the world you are working towards. What does it look like? How do we take care of each other? What do we eat? Where do we live?

a few guidelines

  • Your page should be 4.25 inches by 5.5 inches (a quarter of a letter-size sheet of paper), or if it’s not, we’ll resize it to fit
  • If you don’t want to be anonymous, please include your name on your page somewhere. If you do want to be anonymouse, that’s perfectly fine too.
  • Have fun. We’ll probably reproduce the zine in only one or two colors and your page might end up looking a little different because of that.

how to submit a page to the zine project:

Here are your options:

1) Come join us on Saturday afternoon 1-2 pm to work on it in person together

2) Email a page that’s 4.25 x 5.5 inches big to meeklingpress@gmail.com (that’s a quarter of a letter-size paper)

3) Pick up a submission sheet at the Cultural Center XPO site (where all the performances are happening). We’ll have sheets and set up a box to drop them in by this Wednesday afternoon. Sort of a scavenger-hunt/wild goose chase option for you adventurous ones.

Red Rover Series presents
“Reading Experiment in Progress”

Mini live free events
November 30th-December 5th
at the Chicago Cultural Center
78 E. Washington Street
in the NFO XPO of the Michigan Ave galleries
**covid protocols in full effect so please mask up**
https://tinyurl.com/redroverseries <<< Click here for the full lineup

Readings, performances, talks, rehearsals,
improvisations, meditations, writing sessions
+ more featuring Chicago writers & artists
as part of the Lumpen exhibit “Successful Failures”
https://tinyurl.com/successfail

Curated by Jennifer Karmin
& inspired by Red Rover’s ongoing collaboration
with 100 Thousand Poets for Change, our focus is:
How can we create change in the world right now?
https://100tpcmedia.org/

Meekling Presents: Spring Reading Party!

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Saturday, May 11th, 7PM, @ Cafe Mustache

Come help us celebrate the fancy & fabulous new books by Meekling friends Evelyn Hampton and Julia Madsen, who are coming through town, by way of Denver!

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Evelyn Hampton is the author of Famous Children and Famished Adults, which won the Ronald Sukenick Innovative Fiction contest and was published by FC2 in 2019; The Aleatory Abyss (Publishing Genius 2017); Discomfort (Ellipsis Press 2015); and the chapbooks We Were Eternal and Gigantic (Magic Helicopter Press), MADAM (Meekling Press), and Seven Touches of Music (alice blue books).

Julia Madsen is a multimedia poet and educator. She received an MFA in Literary Arts from Brown University and is a PhD candidate in English/Creative Writing at the University of Denver. Her first book, The Boneyard, The Birth Manual, A Burial: Investigations into the Heartland, was recently published with Trembling Pillow Press and was listed on Entropy’s Best Poetry Books of 2018.

Popahna Brandes is the author of In An I, (Sidebrow Books, 2015); The Sea In Me/The Riddle We Heard (The Corresponding Society); and Reading Tests, in collaboration with Jack Henrie Fisher and a machinic interlocutor (Jan Van Eyck Academie). Works of translation, prose, film and music have been published by Belladonna*, The Encyclopedia Project, Sleepingfish, Ein Magazin über Orte, Tarpaulin Sky, and Pocket Myth. She has led classes in lyrical and impossible narrative forms for many years, runs an annual writing workshop in the book village of Montolieu, France, and has collected a few sticks in Chicago where she now lives.

Anne K. Yoder’s work has appeared in Fence, Bomb, and Tin House, among other publications, and was recently included in They Said: A Multi-Genre Anthology of Contemporary Collaborative Writing. She is the author of two chapbooks — Jungfrau Happy AHHHHH (Meekling Press) and Sigil & Sigh, with Megan Kaminski (Dusie Kollektiv). She is a staff writer for The Millions and is a member of Meekling Press. An excerpt of her novel, The Enhancers, is forthcoming in MAKE Lit’s Weird Science issue.